Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Some LK-Superchest-Run Statistics

Just completed my 2000 LK-Superchest-Runs

(report here) and thought I'd share the statistics cause I did comparable good.

Found 2x Um, 3x Mal, 1x Ist, 4x Gul, 2x Vex, 1x Ohm, 1x Lo, 2x Sur



The Ohm-Rune I found after the 5th run with /Players 7. Then, decided to go for /players 8 since most people seem to find their Bers with that and I was looking for 2 Bers for Infinity. the first 1000 Runs I did on the same map with 7 superchests (2 fires) and then I changed the map, to see the difference. The second map was also 7 superchests (2 fires).

It normally took me around 40 seconds to do one run. From what I found out, I got more runes while openening all chests, corpses and hiding places. I also found cuple of High Runes in Corpses, but mostly they dropped from SCs.

Here are the detailed results for run 0-1000:

Highrunes:

Ohm

Um

2xSur

2xVex

2xMal

Gul



Complete:


Code:
 
# Rune Found: Percentage
1 El 12 2.92%
2 Eld 9 2.19%
3 Tir 28 6.81%
4 Nef 15 3.65%
5 Eth 23 5.60%
6 Ith 29 7.06%
7 Tal 47 11.44%
8 Ral 36 8.76%
9 Ort 53 12.90%
10 Thul 22 5.35%
11 Amn 31 7.54%
12 Sol 23 5.60%
13 Shael 18 4.38%
14 Dol 13 3.16%
15 Hel 14 3.41%
16 Io 11 2.68%
17 Lum 8 1.95%
18 Ko 3 0.73%
19 Fal 4 0.97%
20 Lem 2 0.49%
21 Pul 1 0.24%
22 Um 1 0.24%
23 Mal 2 0.49%
24 Ist
25 Gul 1 0.24%
26 Vex 2 0.49%
27 Ohm 1 0.24%
28 Lo
29 Sur 2 0.49%
30 Ber
31 Jah
32 Cham
33 Zod

Runes: 411 HR: 8



Rune/Run-Ratio: 2.43 Runs / Rune

HighRune/Run-Ratio: 125.00 Runs / HR

Here are the detailed results for run 1000-2000:

Highrunes:

Mal

3xGul

Lo

Ist






Code:
 
# Rune Found: Percentage
1 El 18 3.24%
2 Eld 7 1.26%
3 Tir 32 5.77%
4 Nef 25 4.50%
5 Eth 42 7.57%
6 Ith 29 5.23%
7 Tal 55 9.91%
8 Ral 39 7.03%
9 Ort 78 14.05%
10 Thul 51 9.19%
11 Amn 48 8.65%
12 Sol 31 5.59%
13 Shael 29 5.23%
14 Dol 24 4.32%
15 Hel 7 1.26%
16 Io 7 1.26%
17 Lum 13 2.34%
18 Ko 3 0.54%
19 Fal 4 0.72%
20 Lem 5 0.90%
21 Pul 1 0.18%
22 Um 1 0.18%
23 Mal 1 0.18%
24 Ist 1 0.18%
25 Gul 3 0.54%
26 Vex
27 Ohm
28 Lo 1 0.18%
29 Sur
30 Ber
31 Jah
32 Cham
33 Zod

Runes: 555 HR: 6



Rune/Run-Ratio: 1.80 Runs / Rune

HighRune/Run-Ratio: 166.67 Runs / HR



Overall, I found 966 Runes, 14 of them beeing High Runes (Mal+)

Thats a Run per Rune ratio of 2.07 and a Run per High Rune Ratio of 140. Considering around 1 Minute for each run (opening game, setting up, muling, calculating..), it takes around 2 1/2 hour to find a High Rune .

Since I haven't found yet the 2 Bers, I might go on and report further... just need 1 Ber, since cubing up the 2 Surs is also an option.

If someone is curious about the background for the calculations: I wrote a Script that tracked my runs in Excel, you can get it here.

Enough statistics for now |||Very interesting! And congrats on the nice haul!

I don't have such detailed documentation for my LK runs, but your Run/Rune and Run/HR ratio looks very familiar.

If it takes you a minute per run I'd suggest you stop popping corpes however. With a good map you should be able to reach approx. 20 seconds per run. If you run with an empty inventory besides a good amount of keys these 20 seconds include loading and muling. That should make it easier to score that Ber.|||I don't think I've read a single account on this forum where someone claimed a long term average of 20s in LK, fwiw. I would imagine 25-30s to be a more realistic number to shoot for with a 200FCR character on a good map.

Of course, it depends a lot on how much stuff you pick up, so maybe if you just ignore everything, 20s is completely doable.|||Agreed, it depends on what you're after. Charms and jewels take a disproportionate amount of time to collect as they are hard to see in a sea of blue items. You also have more muling to do, especially GC fill the inventory quickly and most of them turn out to be junk.

That's the reason I usually just look for the orange flash which you can see in an instance and teleport on if there isn't one. If a rune drops I only pick up HR's. The rest I leave. That way I can start out with an inventory full of keys for almost no downtime rebuying them and muling.|||Very cool! I can't wait to try some of these RW that were impossible when they first came out!

Quick question: I see a lot of work as gone into documenting the drop pattern when a chest sits a HR. Is that just to understand the mechanic and help verify legit runes, or is it helpful in finding chests that may spawn HR? (I don't think so, but I'd feel silly if I was wrong)|||I was able to do runs with 30 to 40 seconds on my map. But usually I am not under such a stress and hurry so I am fine with 1m Also, I was picking up Ethereal, Socketed, Charms, Jewels and Gems. Had a weappon rack which dropped every 3rd or so run a Monarch. I now have more than 10 4OS Superior Monarchs (Spirit . I was looking for one for weeks..

Found 26 Skillers on those 2000 runs, including cubing.

And it seems worth before you select a map you gonna run, you have a look at the patterns of weappon racks and armor racks and what they drop. I had one that was constantly dropping claws, one that was constantly dropping crossbows and the one with the Monarch drops. Guess what I found couple of times: Stormshield (Monarch), 2x Buriza (Crossbow), 2xTitans and 4xJade ^^ So it might be worth if you are looking for THAT special item you need to select your map based on that.|||@Fabian:

TME has it right. It is completely doable if doing it that way. Even 15s is doable in some periods (~50runs) when you feel focused. But comfortable times are 20s in the 1k # of runs. And you don't screw up the Nightmare/Hell menu as often... that crappudes is annoying.|||That's a nice amount of runes. I did ~ 2,3k runs a while ago with a best find of pul, iirc o.0 I averaged 23 seconds with <200fcr + collecting charms. Talk about bad luck ^^

And then I accidentally rerolled my LK map It was one teleport away from the first and the last chest ( with a total of 6 chests of course ). I used wp to Act4 at the end, which saved me quite a few seconds.

P.S. Telekinetic is a useful skill toi have.



Spoiler


^ anyone gets the reference? |||Was a Pul your best find in 2.3k runs? For heaven's sake! I if I were you, I would have felt very dissapointed.

Congrats on your finds, Gromhelm!

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