I was hoping for a few directions to pursue. . .

Greetings, all! I am new to this forum but have been lurking for a few years ever since I found the 1.07 guide. Oh boy did I feels stupid when I couldn't find ANY good uniques from bosses with 500+ mf on a zealer (merc included). Anyway, I've found many other new insights throughout the forum and I'm looking for new goals to pursue, but am unsure of all there is to offer me (mostly in older patches). I've heard of 1.10a bkwb, beta cta, and the magnificent mana per kill rings from 1.07, and would love a few suggestions on how I should go about getting these, and other items I haven't heard about.

Some info on me: I restarted playing d2 sp and tcpip with a friend just months before 1.13 was released, and so finding my first high rune was a ridiculous rush for me. I now have several builds and this summer have produced my first infinity for my lightning sorceress. I do have months of experience in patch 1.07 (I did manage to beat hell and get to level 85 with that zealer), and have read the guide as well as the addendum a few times, and considering starting that up again, as well.

More back on topic, I would like to say that I'm open to any help of any kind, and can imagine suggestions ranging from starter builds in a patch to making a char, upgrading to a different patch, etc.

Thanks to this forum I have new reason to play the game, for what will probably keep me entertained throughout my time in university

hurray for the spf!

I'm also comfortable with atma as well as the rwm, as the infinity suggests!

If this thread should be somewhere else please let me know!|||Welcome! *Kicks Shins*

Now that you've been initiated, have these: *geibs shiny shinguards*

If you've gotten a toon to lvl85 in 1.07, you've got a great headstart on some of those goals you mentioned...

The MPK rings from 1.07 are pretty easy to get, its just the cold resist ring cube formula: magic ring + sapphire (any kind) + thawing potion (sold by Akara, Lysander, or Alkor...Jamella and Malah don't sell them for some reason...). If the resulting ring spawns the 'Triumphant' prefix (+1 MPK), then the cold resist will be added to the +MPK number, resulting in 7-37 MPK. You get the highest chances for 'Triumphant' with a level 5 character, if you want a MPK/FCR ring (the most valuable kind), then roll them with a level 8 charater instead.

If you can MP (either self-MP with multi-instance, or with multiple computers), you can rush characters to Hellforge for the runes (collect the NM hellforge in 1.07, then forward the rushees to 1.10a (or later) to collect the Hell HF (1.07 hell HF drops the same as NM (Sol - Um), 1.10a and later hell HF drop Hel - Gul (you will need 4xGul to get the Ohm for beta CTA...that's 32xUm, so collecting the hell HF in 1.10a+ really speeds things up)). Hellforge rushees also make great toons to forward to get a head start in a new patch...

Do be aware that there are many areas where the old 1.07 guide and addendum are wrong...if you have you have 1.07 specific questions, try the 1.07 thread

WoRG|||The good news is that I have that experience. The really bad news is that although I have a level 85 zealer from 1.07, at some point I must have used it accidentally and cannot find a backup from years ago, so the character I believe is now 1.13, and therefore useless

Thank you though, that is very useful info, especially regarding clvl for quickest results.

I just thought of something: Are the "expansion" items still transferable to new 1.07 characters I make in the future, even though I fear my zealer has been accidentally patched to a higher difficulty? The huge mf boost would really help me find the things I need, not to mention a few really nice items i found like vipermagi and string of ears. Furthermore, and just as importantly, assuming a trader accepts sharing of items through atma, is it acceptable through this forum for me to send expansion items back to 1.07 characters if they have been moved forward?|||pharphis,

I'd recommend checking out Time Traveling the SPF Way. It details what is and is not acceptable, when it comes to items from different versions.|||Well, I wrote a long post, but the squid ate it...

short version: Read the thread that THC linked for you.

Keep in mind that the 'version' on the ATMA readout simply notes if the item was spawned in the "old" (pre-1.10) item format...items from 1.07, 1.08, and 1.09 all read 'Expansion', while items from 1.10 and later read '1.10+ Expansion'. Items that were spawned in 1.07 and forwarded to 1.13c would still list 'Expansion' as their version, even though they are now 1.13c items.

You set the version of an ATMA stash upon creation...only items from the version its created for can be placed in a stash, so your 1.07 stashes have 1.07 items and can be used on new 1.07 characters. I suggest keeping separate folders for different versions, but if you didn't and you didn't name the stash in such a way that you know what version its for, then open the stash in ATMA and check the status bar (bottom of the screen unless you moved it) for the version...if you don't see the status bar, make sure its turned on (click View on the menu bar, there should be a check next to Status Bar)

Shame you forwarded the Zealot, he would have been good for rushing other characters. Also, don't give up too quickly on running hell bosses w/556 MF...there are some low-level 1.07 uniques that can be good...especially for use/trade in 1.07: FCR items like Wall of the Eyeless, Spectral Shard, Magefists, and the Suicide Branch can drop from Meph, Diablo, and Baal. Actually, if you have a character that can survive Hell Baal pretty well w/556 MF, that would be an excellent MF target: he can drop Blade of Ali Baba, Crainte Vomir, Ginther's Rift, Moser's shield, Chromatic Ire, and Rockstopper. Baal is not usually run for MF as he is so dangerous...

WoRG|||Thanks,

All good to know information. I'm working on finding sapphires now for mpk rings with fcr. Haven't got trumphant yet, but plenty fcr rings that don't hurt either this soon in the game.

I also tried players 64... then reduced it to 20 and finished the den of evil at level 6! :P I went through at least a dozen different weapons because everything broke on me!|||Quote:








Thanks,

All good to know information. I'm working on finding sapphires now for mpk rings with fcr. Haven't got trumphant yet, but plenty fcr rings that don't hurt either this soon in the game.

I also tried players 64... then reduced it to 20 and finished the den of evil at level 6! :P I went through at least a dozen different weapons because everything broke on me!




Hold on there cowboy, what version are you playing?

patch 1.07 has the bugged MPK rings and has no way to change the player settings without self MPing.

patch 1.09 has the players setting up to level 64.|||I grabbed a copy of 1.09b yesterday, and a few weeks ago I installed 1.07. I guess I should have more clearly distinguished what I was doing and where (when?) I was doing it. I'm making a frozen orb sorc for 1.07 since they pierce cold immunities as well as teleporting for rack runs, and for 1.09b I am making a LF zon, so that I can test and see how effective LF is in that version. I read that all types of damage are carried through the bolts, and am curious to see if knockback, life leach or crushing blow are as well.

Just imagine a game of cows at a player setting of 20+ with CB,OW,DS and all other damage carrying over the bolts. . . It seems too good to be true, but I must find out!|||You might be interested in my post comparing 1.09 and 1.13 LF Zons. For 1.09, I highly recommend a Hybrid with a GA Buriza bow switch since the tanking Jav skills are so bad in 1.09.|||Ah, good, makes sense then!

I've never played 1.09, but I've heard that people can still run cows at around players20 without it slowing them down very much.